I want to find a solution in IronRuby to use RPC function. I tried SOAP, but it can't work, any one could tell me how to implement RPC (or XMLRPC) in ironruby? Thanks,
on 2010-03-19 07:25
on 2010-03-19 07:42
There are several ways to do that with IronRuby. Very CLR centric: You can create a proxy to your webservice using visual studio, compile to a dll and use the proxy from your ruby code. CLR centric: You can use System.Net.HttpWebRequest to make the request and System.Xml.XmlDocument to parse the response Very Ruby centric: Use Net::HTTP to perform the request and REXML to parse the response --- Met vriendelijke groeten - Best regards - Salutations Ivan Porto Carrero Web: http://whiterabbitconsulting.eu - http://flanders.co.nz Twitter: http://twitter.com/casualjim Author of IronRuby in Action (http://manning.com/carrero) Microsoft IronRuby/C# MVP
on 2010-04-17 09:49
Or use hpricot or nokogiri Ruby libraries. You will find several libs to choose from. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2010, at 11:41 PM, Ivan Porto Carrero <ivan@whiterabbitconsulting.eu
on 2010-04-17 11:00
2010/4/17 Ryan Riley <ryan.riley@panesofglass.org>: > Or use hpricot or nokogiri Ruby libraries. You will find several libs to > choose from. Does nokogiri work on IronRuby?!
on 2010-04-17 21:15
Maybe I spoke too soon, but I thought it did. I was switching back and forth a lot at the time. I will try again once I get everything re- installed. Sent from my iPhone
on 2010-04-18 09:02
nokogiri works on windows but not on IronRuby ... it needs a C-extension --- Met vriendelijke groeten - Best regards - Salutations Ivan Porto Carrero Web: http://whiterabbitconsulting.eu - http://flanders.co.nz Twitter: http://twitter.com/casualjim Author of IronRuby in Action (http://manning.com/carrero) Microsoft IronRuby/C# MVP
on 2010-04-18 09:49
So whose going to port it? :) or even implement FFI? ~Jimmy On Apr 18, 2010, at 12:02 AM, "Ivan Porto Carrero" <ivan@cloudslide.net<mailto:ivan@cloudslide.net>> wrote: nokogiri works on windows but not on IronRuby ... it needs a C-extension --- Met vriendelijke groeten - Best regards - Salutations Ivan Porto Carrero Web: <http://whiterabbitconsulting.eu> http://whiterabbitconsulting.eu - <http://flanders.co.nz> http://flanders.co.nz Twitter: <http://twitter.com/casualjim> http://twitter.com/casualjim Author of IronRuby in Action (<http://manning.com/carrero>http://manning.com/carrero) Microsoft IronRuby/C# MVP On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Ryan Riley <<mailto:ryan.riley@panesofglass.org>ryan.riley@panesofglass.org<mailto:ryan.riley@panesofglass.org>> wrote: Maybe I spoke too soon, but I thought it did. I was switching back and forth a lot at the time. I will try again once I get everything re-installed. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 17, 2010, at 1:47 AM, Seo Sanghyeon <<mailto:sanxiyn@gmail.com>sanxiyn@gmail.com<mailto:sanxiyn@gmail.com>> wrote: 2010/4/17 Ryan Riley <<mailto:ryan.riley@panesofglass.org>ryan.riley@panesofglass.org<mailto:ryan.riley@panesofglass.org>>: Or use hpricot or nokogiri Ruby libraries. You will find several libs to choose from. Does nokogiri work on IronRuby?! -- Seo Sanghyeon _______________________________________________ Ironruby-core mailing list <mailto:Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org>Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org<mailto:Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org> <http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core>http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core _______________________________________________ Ironruby-core mailing list <mailto:Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org>Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org<mailto:Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org> <http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core>http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core _______________________________________________ Ironruby-core mailing list Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org<mailto:Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core
on 2010-04-18 11:59
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 09:49, Jimmy Schementi
<Jimmy.Schementi@microsoft.com> wrote:
> So whose going to port it? :) or even implement FFI?
Nokogiri is built on top of libxml2 and libxslt so we could have a C#
Nokogiri that performs interop with those libraries, but a
fully-managed Nokogiri would be cooler (BTW the JRuby guys are
reaching the goal of a pure-Java version and they are close to passing
all the tests).
I did a very quick research on the subject a few weeks ago. The reader
bits should be relatively easy to port since, as far as I remember,
the reader interface of libxml2 is modeled after the XmlTextReader
class of .NET. "SAX for .NET" could be used for the SAX parser to
start (it's BSD licensed but hasn't been updated since ages... we just
don't have Xerces :-)). Mono has something for RelaxNG validation.
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on 2010-04-18 23:11
Speaking of FFI, what's the tradeoff here? FFI let's us use the existing libraries without porting, but a managed alternative should be more performant, right? Seems like FFI is the winner here, but I may be missing something. Ryan Riley Email: ryan.riley@panesofglass.org LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanriley Blog: http://wizardsofsmart.net/ Twitter: @panesofglass Website: http://panesofglass.org/ On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Jimmy Schementi <
on 2010-04-19 02:06
Performance is one negative - since most of the logic that would normally be implemented in C, Java or C# is implemented in Ruby, it will be slower. Libxml is callback heavy, and depending on how well the FFI impl handles these, the rather large number of transitions between ruby and the native lib costs a lot. Portability is another - with a pure-ruby or C# impl, you don't need to worry about having the appropriate native lib on the system - its plug and play. libxml is also a pretty nasty api to bind using something like FFI, and nokogiri really pushes FFI, so until you have a really complete FFI impl, you'll have stability problems. In hindsight, I think JRuby would have been better served by just going for a java impl of nokogiri upfront rather than the nokogiri-over-FFI stopgap.
on 2010-04-19 03:46
Using native code in your app also requires full trust (implying it won't work in Silverlight) and is potentially a security issue. Any exploit in the library would make IronRuby vulnerable to attacks. Tomas
on 2010-04-20 00:29
Just out of curiosity: What's the process for making an ironruby port of something like Nokogiri? I looked at a blog post<http://blog.headius.com/2010/04/nokogiri-java-port-help-us-finish-it.html>by one of the people working on the JRuby port and it looks pretty involved, but essentially, to port it you would just implement all the "attach_functions" in libxml.rb in .NET? --c On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 18:46, Tomas Matousek
on 2010-04-20 10:44
There are several approaches you can take. Nokogiri has been a b**** to get going on windows, and even now it only compiles on mingw based MRI AFAIK. To come close to the quality of the Nokogiri gem I think you would need to find a very fast .NET based xml library (it's not XLinq :)), that also has a SAX parser, knows about CSS3 for parsing documents in addition to XPATH, and then provide an adapter to make it look like the nokogiri API. You could potentially use P/Invoke to call to libxml2 but then you take on a dependency on a native library. I'm also not sure if libxml2 actually performs in the same way on windows as it does on *nix. If we would have an implementation of FFI then we could use the FFI based nokogiri gem. I looked at it a few times but it would be a serious amount of work, too much for my taste :). --- Met vriendelijke groeten - Best regards - Salutations Ivan Porto Carrero Web: http://whiterabbitconsulting.eu - http://flanders.co.nz Twitter: http://twitter.com/casualjim Author of IronRuby in Action (http://manning.com/carrero) Microsoft IronRuby/C# MVP
on 2010-04-20 16:12
To me at least, it seems that it might be easier to take the approach of developing an FFI. I think JRuby took that approach and they're just about at the point where they've got access to Nokogiri. Might be worth looking into if someone wants to put forth the effort. I might even look into it :). -Zac
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