Hi,
I'm playing with FakeFS and want to fake Kernel#require. That's working
quite well now, but somehow Kernel#autoload doesn't recognize my custom
#require. The documentation says that #autoload would try to load the
file via Kernel::require, which is contradictory, as there's only
Kernel#require.
The following snippet doesn't print "foo/bar", as I would expect.
module Kernel
def require fn
puts fn
end
end
module Foo
autoload :Bar, "foo/bar"
end
Foo::Bar
Does anyone have an idea on this?
Best regards,
Lars
on 2010-03-08 11:25
on 2010-03-08 13:45
On Mar 8, 11:25 am, Lars Gierth <lars.gie...@altefeuerwachekoeln.de> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm playing with FakeFS and want to fake Kernel#require. That's working > quite well now, but somehow Kernel#autoload doesn't recognize my custom > #require. The documentation says that #autoload would try to load the > file via Kernel::require, which is contradictory, as there's only > Kernel#require. > [ruby-core:20190] http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/vframe.rb/ruby/ruby-core/20190?20046-21072+split-mode-vertical
on 2010-03-08 14:58
Hi, thanks a lot for pointing me on this discussion, quite interesting ;) Best regards, Lars Luis Lavena wrote: > [ruby-core:20190] > http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/vframe.rb/ruby/ruby-core/20190?20046-21072+split-mode-vertical
on 2010-03-19 17:23
Lars Gierth wrote:
> I'm playing with FakeFS and want to fake Kernel#require.
Hi again, I git this working by overwriting #const_missing?, #autoload?
and #autoload.
Source is on GitHub:
http://github.com/lgierth/fakefs/blob/topic/fake-require/lib/fakefs/require.rb
on 2010-03-19 20:33
On Friday 19 March 2010 11:23:37 am Lars Gierth wrote: > Lars Gierth wrote: > > I'm playing with FakeFS and want to fake Kernel#require. > > Hi again, I git this working by overwriting #const_missing?, #autoload? > and #autoload. You probably didn't. One example I know where Kernel#autoload works and const_missing doesn't is when defining a const. For example: irb(main):001:0> autoload :CSV, 'csv' => nil irb(main):002:0> module CSV irb(main):003:1> end TypeError: CSV is not a module from (irb):2 from /home/ruby19/bin/irb:12:in `<main>' The obvious danger here is when you try monkeypatching something first, and then using it: autoload :CSV, 'csv' class CSV def foo # ... end end With a real Kernel#autoload, that class definition will be referring to CSV, and actually autoload the file first, so you'll be extending CSV. With this one, it won't, because neither of the examples above will ever hit const_missing, or anything else I know of that the application can override. This is why we need to actually need to have Kernel#autoload behave properly with an overridden Kernel#require, or at least have enough primitives exposed that we can redefine Kernel#autoload. At the moment, the _only_ option is to override $:, which only makes sense if you're _always_ going to autoload a file, as opposed to a URL, an expression, or anything else. This has apparently been known about for years. It's one of two fairly brain- dead decisions I've seen the Ruby language make, and unfortunately, is the kind of problem that can really only be fixed by hacking on the interpreter itself.
on 2010-03-20 17:31
Hi David, thanks a lot for pointing this out. It's indeed one more limitation of FakeFS::Require. The other one, of which I have not thought that much yet, is that you can't be 100% sure that #const_missing gets hit. What if a class/module that uses #autoload defines its own #const_missing? I'll think about this when I have some time for it, but for now - and for my usecase - it's fine: testing a library that loads ruby source files by configuration, assisted by libraries that autoload files (Rack) or load files from stdlib during runtime (Usher). Btw, what's this second braindead decision? I would be very interested in it :) Best regards, Lars
on 2010-03-20 23:35
On Saturday 20 March 2010 11:31:19 am Lars Gierth wrote: > The other one, of which I have not thought that much > yet, is that you can't be 100% sure that #const_missing gets hit. That was mostly my point, and the examples I used are cases where const_missing isn't hit. > What > if a class/module that uses #autoload defines its own #const_missing? If they don't do a proper alias_method_chain on it, that's their own problem. Put another way: You're allowed to redefine Fixnum#+, or NilClass#nil?, or any number of other things. If you abuse this ability, you get to keep both pieces. Even the authors of irb don't plan for every contingency: irb(main):001:0> class NilClass irb(main):002:1> def nil? irb(main):003:2> false irb(main):004:2> end irb(main):005:1> end => irb(main):006:0> true /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/irb/slex.rb:234:in `match_io': undefined method `call' for nil:NilClass (NoMethodError) from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/irb/slex.rb:75:in `match' from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/irb/ruby-lex.rb:287:in `token' from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/irb/ruby-lex.rb:263:in `lex' from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/irb/ruby-lex.rb:234:in `block (2 levels) in each_top_level_statement' from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/irb/ruby-lex.rb:230:in `loop' from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/irb/ruby-lex.rb:230:in `block in each_top_level_statement' from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/irb/ruby-lex.rb:229:in `catch' from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/irb/ruby-lex.rb:229:in `each_top_level_statement' from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/irb.rb:145:in `eval_input' from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/irb.rb:69:in `block in start' from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/irb.rb:68:in `catch' from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/irb.rb:68:in `start' from /home/ruby19/bin/irb:12:in `<main>' > Btw, what's this second braindead decision? I would be very interested > in it :) The behavior of UnboundMethod -- you can only bind an UnboundMethod to an object of an appropriate class. So, for example: class Foo def bar :whatever end end umeth = Foo.instance_method(:bar) What do you do with an UnboundMethod? Well, this is roughly how things like BlankSlate can hide/unhide methods -- it removes all methods from an object and stuffs them into a hash, but you can have it re-apply those methods again, kind of like this: bmeth = umeth.bind(Foo.new) Once it's bound, you can call it: bmeth.call Or shortcut the process: umeth.bind(Foo.new).call Here's the problem: In my mind, one of the cooler things about being able to unbind methods like this is to allow the kind of free-for-all that you have in JavaScript, where you can pull methods out of one object, leave them around in the closure to reapply to the same object, or apply them directly to a different object... Yes, you could do prototypal inheritance, but you could also do ad-hoc code reuse. As an example, in Ruby, Object#extend and Module#include either are or depend on very low-level constructs that aren't really accessible to you. In JavaScript, there is no Object.extend, but you can easily write it yourself, using the fact that methods are just functions that you apply to (or attach to) a given object, and functions are themselves first-class objects. In Ruby, this isn't quite the case. Try something like this instead: umeth.bind(Object.new).call You get a TypeError. That's very Java-like behavior. That's anal-retentively- strict type-checking sneaking into an otherwise beautiful, dynamic, duck-typed language. It's the polar opposite of duck-typing. There may be performance reasons to do it this way, I'm not sure. (A counterargument: How is Ruby doing versus Google's v8 interpreter for JavaScript?) When I've brought it up before, people essentially argued that it's never sane to do that, so I shouldn't be able to. Erm, I can redefine Fixnum#+, you've got open classes, define_method, and eval, and you won't let me re-bind an existing method? Sorry, not buying it -- I thought the whole point is that it's up to the programmer to decide what's sane, and if you do something insane, you get to keep both pieces. I thought it was only languages like Java that try to keep you from shooting yourself in the foot by limiting your possibilities. But I digress -- I did find an ugly workaround for the project I needed that on, and that project has stagnated for awhile anyway. Still, it's one of very few things that still bother me about Ruby. (Another is that I really like Python's significant indentation, and much prefer it to Ruby's end-end-end-end. However, that's a dead horse, and there seem to be entirely too many Ruby people who don't want to see that even become an option, and there's too many other things I like about Ruby for that one feature to send me back to Python.)
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