Forum: Ruby on Rails PHP -> Ruby On Rails: advice wanted on customer management ( dns / email )

Posted by rubybox (Guest)
on 2010-02-09 09:47
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Ive searched this group and google Groups and hope this topic
will get approved since ruby on rails tak seems the only place I could
ask.

CURRENT SITUATION:
Currently Im using a Plesk, PHP, Ruby Enterprise VPS with the plesk
for managing customers ( email, passwords, etc )
Mainly all my websites use a custom account for each customer with its
own /httpdocs to serve the php files from ( Wordpress )
customers do not have ftp access and don't need them, they only edit
there websites true the wordpress modified CMS we use.

WANTED SITUATION
I currently investigate in migrating all this to Radiant with the
Multisite Extension. Since I want to dish and leave PHP behind me
after falling in love with ROR.
It seems like a great solution to have a central radiant based CMS
solution but then there is the problem !

FACING PROBLEMS, ADVICE?
We need a solution to manage customers, create email accounts for them
and host this on the server.
We need a way to easily manage customers, adding emails hosting those
mailboxes, with spamassasin and preferreable some
config panel ( replacing plesk ) to mangage the server backups,
clients, email accounts and other settings.

Is there a solution for this? Ive searched high and low but found no
solution for this yet.
Advice on above would be higly appreciated. Thank you.
Posted by Peter De Berdt (Guest)
on 2010-02-09 10:22
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On 09 Feb 2010, at 09:45, rubybox wrote:

> Multisite Extension. Since I want to dish and leave PHP behind me
> clients, email accounts and other settings.
>
> Is there a solution for this? Ive searched high and low but found no
> solution for this yet.
> Advice on above would be higly appreciated. Thank you.

Why would you need to give up Plesk for that? It's just a matter of
pointing to the same Radiant in the vhost.conf file if you use
Passenger. Everything else just stays the way it is.

DocumentRoot /var/www/vhosts/mydomain.com/path/to/rails/app/public

No matter how much disadvantages and quirks I think Plesk and cPanel
have, if you want to provide your customer with a fancy pancy control
panel that they can understand and you can manage easily, using either
one of those is a necessary evil.


Best regards

Peter De Berdt
Posted by shyam mohan (Guest)
on 2010-02-09 11:42
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Hi

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user name:  admin
password:   pass

try this
if u find this ok ask me a customised CRM.

Regards,
Shyam
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shyam@crypsis.net
Posted by rubybox (Guest)
on 2010-02-09 13:12
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> No matter how much disadvantages and quirks I think Plesk and cPanel  
> have, if you want to provide your customer with a fancy pancy control  
> panel that they can understand and you can manage easily, using either  
> one of those is a necessary evil.
>
> Best regards
>
> Peter De Berdt

I use plesk only myself, customers have no panel access. I create
domains and emails for them.
So Plesk should go.. It costs me around 120 EUR extra each year and
Its not that great,
If only I do is creating ruby apps I wont need the creation of
database with plesk, i can do all from command line.

A simple panel to create some users and email accounts would be nice
though.
Heroku does not support this I believe do you know a good ruby hoster
that does this?
Posted by Peter De Berdt (Guest)
on 2010-02-09 13:39
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On 09 Feb 2010, at 13:10, rubybox wrote:

> I use plesk only myself, customers have no panel access. I create
> domains and emails for them.
> So Plesk should go.. It costs me around 120 EUR extra each year and
> Its not that great,
> If only I do is creating ruby apps I wont need the creation of
> database with plesk, i can do all from command line.
>
> A simple panel to create some users and email accounts would be nice
> though.
> Heroku does not support this I believe do you know a good ruby hoster
> that does this?

Well, if you want it to be free, you can just take Webmin and/or
Virtualmin (http://www.webmin.com/). It's not as userfriendly, but it
does just about everything you can imagine through a web interface.

Some more alternatives are highlighted here: 
http://lordmatt.co.uk/item/966/


Best regards

Peter De Berdt
Posted by Marnen Laibow-Koser (marnen)
on 2010-02-09 14:10
rubybox wrote:
>> No matter how much disadvantages and quirks I think Plesk and cPanel �
>> have, if you want to provide your customer with a fancy pancy control �
>> panel that they can understand and you can manage easily, using either �
>> one of those is a necessary evil.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Peter De Berdt
> 
> I use plesk only myself, customers have no panel access. I create
> domains and emails for them.
> So Plesk should go.. It costs me around 120 EUR extra each year and
> Its not that great,
> If only I do is creating ruby apps I wont need the creation of
> database with plesk, i can do all from command line.
> 

How about Webmin, then?

Best,
-- 
Marnen Laibow-Koser
http://www.marnen.org
marnen@marnen.org
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