Forum: Ruby confused about the superclass

Posted by Ruby Newbee (Guest)
on 2010-02-08 04:14
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Hello,

irb(main):001:0> class Myclass
irb(main):002:1>   def play
irb(main):003:2>   end
irb(main):004:1> end

irb(main):027:0> Myclass.class
=> Class
irb(main):028:0> Myclass.superclass
=> Object
irb(main):029:0> Class.superclass
=> Module


Please see the code about, why Myclass.superclass is "Object"? But I
think it should be "Module".

Thanks for your helps.
Posted by Robert Klemme (Guest)
on 2010-02-08 07:50
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2010/2/8 Ruby Newbee <rubynewbee@gmail.com>:
> => Object
> irb(main):029:0> Class.superclass
> => Module
>
>
> Please see the code about, why Myclass.superclass is "Object"? But I
> think it should be "Module".

Why?

robert
Posted by Josh Cheek (Guest)
on 2010-02-08 08:14
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On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Ruby Newbee <rubynewbee@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Please see the code about, why Myclass.superclass is "Object"? But I
> think it should be "Module".
>
> Thanks for your helps.
>
>
class MyClass
end

MyClass.class       # => Class
MyClass.superclass  # => Object
MyClass.ancestors   # => [MyClass, Object, Kernel]

Class.class         # => Class
Class.superclass    # => Module
Class.ancestors     # => [Class, Module, Object, Kernel]

From here, I see that MyClass's class and superclass are congruent with 
it's
ancestors, and so are Class's. However, I am also a bit confused, it 
seems
that if MyClass inherits from Class, then it should include Module in 
it's
ancestors. I thought about it a bit, and decided to check if included
modules of Class are visible to MyClass

----------

module DoYouSeeMe
end

class Class
  include DoYouSeeMe
end

MyClass.class       # => Class
MyClass.superclass  # => Object
MyClass.ancestors   # => [MyClass, Object, Kernel]

Class.class         # => Class
Class.superclass    # => Module
Class.ancestors     # => [Class, DoYouSeeMe, Module, Object, Kernel]

So apparently not. I decided to generalize this into a hypothesis that
included modules are not visible to subclasses.

----------

class MyClass
  include DoYouSeeMe
end
class MyInheritedClass < MyClass
end

MyClass.class                   # => Class
MyClass.superclass              # => Object
MyClass.ancestors               # => [MyClass, DoYouSeeMe, Object, 
Kernel]

MyInheritedClass.class          # => Class
MyInheritedClass.superclass     # => MyClass
MyInheritedClass.ancestors      # => [MyInheritedClass, MyClass, 
DoYouSeeMe,
Object, Kernel]

----------

class MyClass
  include DoYouSeeMe
end
class MySubClass < MyClass
end

MyClass.class                   # => Class
MyClass.superclass              # => Object
MyClass.ancestors               # => [MyClass, DoYouSeeMe, Object, 
Kernel]

MySubClass.class                # => Class
MySubClass.superclass           # => MyClass
MySubClass.ancestors            # => [MySubClass, MyClass, DoYouSeeMe,
Object, Kernel]

Apparently I was wrong. I thought about it a little bit more, and 
decided
that maybe MyClass didn't inherit from Class, but was rather an instance 
of
class

----------

MyClass.instance_of? Class      # => true
MySubClass.instance_of? MyClass # => false
MyOtherClass = Class.new
MyOtherClass.ancestors          # => [MyOtherClass, Object, Kernel]

This seems to be congruent :)
So, my conclusion is that class and superclass behave correctly, in that
they reflect their ancestry. And the reason MyClass' ancestry is not a
superset of Class' ancestry is because MyClass is not a subclass of 
Class,
but rather an instance of it. ( I tried making a subclass of Class also, 
but
got a TypeError )



Hope that helps, thanks for asking, it was a useful exercise :)
Posted by Robert Klemme (Guest)
on 2010-02-08 09:11
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2010/2/8 Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@gmail.com>:

> So, my conclusion is that class and superclass behave correctly, in that
> they reflect their ancestry. And the reason MyClass' ancestry is not a
> superset of Class' ancestry is because MyClass is not a subclass of Class,
> but rather an instance of it. ( I tried making a subclass of Class also, but
> got a TypeError )

Exactly!  You have the most important point at the end of your
posting: with Ruby it's so easy to confuse /inheritance/ relationship
and /instance of/ relationship yet they are two pairs of shoes
(although related at some point).

Kind regards

robert
Posted by Brian Candler (candlerb)
on 2010-02-08 11:06
Ruby Newbee wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> irb(main):001:0> class Myclass
> irb(main):002:1>   def play
> irb(main):003:2>   end
> irb(main):004:1> end
> 
> irb(main):027:0> Myclass.class
> => Class
> irb(main):028:0> Myclass.superclass
> => Object
> irb(main):029:0> Class.superclass
> => Module
> 
> 
> Please see the code about, why Myclass.superclass is "Object"? But I
> think it should be "Module".

All classes inherit from Object unless you give a different superclass. 
That is, when you are creating a new class(*),

    class Foo; end

is the same as

    class Foo < Object; end

or

    Foo = Class.new

or

    Foo = Class.new(Object)

HTH,

Brian.

(*) as opposed to re-opening an existing class, which must already have 
had its superclass chosen, and it cannot be changed.
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