Forum: Rails I18n Shouldn't I18n default to English?

I've just started using I18n on a test application and everything is
great except one thing:

For the fun of it I set my Firefox user agent Accept-Language to
Italian, and my page renders this: "it, hello_world."  Shouldn't it say
"hello, world" (the English phrase)?

Does I18n force you to translate every string into language in order to
use it???

I'd much rather configure it to "use English if the desired language
isn't available."  How do you do that?

I18n.t :hello_world, :default => 'Hello, world'



2010/2/3 Peter Alvin <lists@ruby-forum.com>

> I'd much rather configure it to "use English if the desired language
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Yup, you could use default strings.

Or - if it's a feature that you want in your application you can use 
locale fallbacks:

http://github.com/svenfuchs/i18n/blob/master/lib/i...

Sven, can you put an implementation example?

Example:

   1.

   I18n::Backend::Simple.send(:include, I18n::Backend::Fallbacks) This
go in Config/enviroment?

   2. Then...what?



2010/2/3 Sven Fuchs <svenfuchs@artweb-design.de>

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Then you have to declare the fallbacks. For example

I18n.fallbacks[:es] = [:en, :fr, :de]
I18n.fallbacks[:en[ = [:es, :fr, :de]
etc

If the es translations isn't available will pick the en one, if not the 
fr
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2010/2/3 Andrés gutiérrez <andresgutgon@gmail.com>

Thanks Albert :)

This in config/enviroment.rb too?
>>I18n.fallbacks[:es] = [:en, :fr, :de]
>>I18n.fallbacks[:en[ = [:es, :fr, :de]


2010/2/3 Albert Llop <mrsimo@gmail.com>

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On Feb 3, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Andrés gutiérrez wrote:
> This in config/enviroment.rb too?
> >>I18n.fallbacks[:es] = [:en, :fr, :de]
> >>I18n.fallbacks[:en[ = [:es, :fr, :de]

That should work.

I'd recommend putting this kind of stuff into an initializer (e.g. 
config/initializers/i18n.rb) instead of environment.rb

Also, maybe you want to see 
http://github.com/svenfuchs/i18n/blob/master/lib/i...

Thanks Sven. For me is clear now. I'll try it.

2010/2/3 Sven Fuchs <svenfuchs@artweb-design.de>

> config/initializers/i18n.rb) instead of environment.rb
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Sorry but i'm tryng this but don't work for me:
I still have no files in English translation, so I want  default for 
english
was Spanish

#config/initializers/i18n.rb
I18n.load_path += Dir[File.join(RAILS_ROOT, 'config', 'locales', '**',
'*.{rb,yml}')]
I18n.default_locale = :es
fallbacks = I18n.fallbacks
fallbacks.map(:en => :"es")

rails 2.3.5 and ruby 1.8.7

When i run the server:
config/initializers/i18n.rb:3: undefined method `fallbacks' for 
I18n:Module

2010/2/3 Sven Fuchs <svenfuchs@artweb-design.de>

> config/initializers/i18n.rb) instead of environment.rb
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I  managed to fix it. I've seen the solution here [1]

The code looks like this
-------------------------------------------------------------------
#config/initializers/i18n.rb
require "i18n/backend/fallbacks"
I18n.load_path += Dir[File.join(RAILS_ROOT, 'config', 'locales', '**',
'*.{rb,yml}')]
I18n.default_locale = :es

I18n::Backend::Simple.send(:include, I18n::Backend::Fallbacks)
-------------------------------------------------------------------

What I needed was to install the gem of sven i18n. But why?
I think rails 2.3.5 that came with native support for internationalizing 
the
App
sudo gem install i18n
Successfully installed i18n-0.3.3


[1] http://wiki.github.com/svenfuchs/i18n/fallbacks

El 6 de febrero de 2010 19:05, Andrés gutiérrez
<andresgutgon@gmail.com>escribió:

>
>> This in config/enviroment.rb too?
>> http://github.com/svenfuchs/i18n/blob/master/lib/i...
>>> etc
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> For the fun of it I set my Firefox user agent Accept-Language to
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en.
>>>>> Edward V. Berard, ingeniero informático.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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