Hi How do you guys deal with TFS? My guys have settled on Rubymine as their IDE, but their SCM is TFS of course as it's a .NET shop. As you're well aware off TFS has the unfortunate habit of marking files as read-only and AFAIK there isn't an easy way to make it detect new files short of going through all the folders and manually adding the new files. When you're on a roll with a rails app for example this can mean there are quite a few files that need to be added. What is the workflow you settled on? use git for everything and once in a while make it sync with TFS? --- Met vriendelijke groeten - Best regards - Salutations Ivan Porto Carrero Blog: http://flanders.co.nz Twitter: http://twitter.com/casualjim Author of IronRuby in Action (http://manning.com/carrero)
on 2010-01-23 16:41
on 2010-01-23 17:07
I know some people who like "tfpt online" (from TFS Power Tools<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=FBD14EEA-781F-45A1-8C46-9F6BA2F68BF0&displaylang=en>) for the purpose of adding a bunch of new files to a preexisting enlistment. I've never used it myself. From: ironruby-core-bounces@rubyforge.org [mailto:ironruby-core-bounces@rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Ivan Porto Carrero Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 7:28 AM To: ironruby-core Subject: [Ironruby-core] dealing with TFS Hi How do you guys deal with TFS? My guys have settled on Rubymine as their IDE, but their SCM is TFS of course as it's a .NET shop. As you're well aware off TFS has the unfortunate habit of marking files as read-only and AFAIK there isn't an easy way to make it detect new files short of going through all the folders and manually adding the new files. When you're on a roll with a rails app for example this can mean there are quite a few files that need to be added. What is the workflow you settled on? use git for everything and once in a while make it sync with TFS? --- Met vriendelijke groeten - Best regards - Salutations Ivan Porto Carrero Blog: http://flanders.co.nz Twitter: http://twitter.com/casualjim Author of IronRuby in Action (http://manning.com/carrero)
on 2010-01-23 19:49
Tfpt online is nice for that purpose. tf folderdiff . /r (recursive on this directory) is another way to detect changes, but it’s a pain since it re-syncs everytime you make a change. Rails would make it hard, but a few other options I can think of to help: a) If it’s a new project, maybe Codeplex’s new Mercurial support can convince them to use something different b) I can help you get setup to sync Git with TFS like we do for IronRuby. It’s a bit of a kludge right now, but it works. Jimmy and I are both trying to make it better, but neither of us have the time yet. c) Write a plugin for rails that hooks into the generator’s SCM support (-g and –s options) to add and edit files as it works. One other thing I have for working within TFS. I map :w to :w! (to overwrite read-only files). And I have defined <leader>te and <leader>ta which simply call :!tf edit % and :!tf add %. The percent expands to the current file. Whenever I touch a file I run this command, of course, this requires you to launch vim from a command line that has TF in the path. JD From: ironruby-core-bounces@rubyforge.org [mailto:ironruby-core-bounces@rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Curt Hagenlocher Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 8:02 AM To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] dealing with TFS I know some people who like "tfpt online" (from TFS Power Tools<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=FBD14EEA-781F-45A1-8C46-9F6BA2F68BF0&displaylang=en>) for the purpose of adding a bunch of new files to a preexisting enlistment. I've never used it myself. From: ironruby-core-bounces@rubyforge.org [mailto:ironruby-core-bounces@rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Ivan Porto Carrero Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 7:28 AM To: ironruby-core Subject: [Ironruby-core] dealing with TFS Hi How do you guys deal with TFS? My guys have settled on Rubymine as their IDE, but their SCM is TFS of course as it's a .NET shop. As you're well aware off TFS has the unfortunate habit of marking files as read-only and AFAIK there isn't an easy way to make it detect new files short of going through all the folders and manually adding the new files. When you're on a roll with a rails app for example this can mean there are quite a few files that need to be added. What is the workflow you settled on? use git for everything and once in a while make it sync with TFS? --- Met vriendelijke groeten - Best regards - Salutations Ivan Porto Carrero Blog: http://flanders.co.nz Twitter: http://twitter.com/casualjim Author of IronRuby in Action (http://manning.com/carrero)
on 2010-01-23 23:47
We've got a couple of people using the TFS->SVN bridge, which I think is made by the codeplex guys. It's SLOW, but it works well for them, as they're on smaller projects.
on 2010-01-24 00:06
svnbridge doesn't work with rubymine or git-svn but it does with tortoise etc. The source control needs to work from within the environment, at least that's what the boss told me. this looks promising too with a few rake tasks perhaps: http://jeroen.haegebaert.com/post/2008/08/23/Dealing-with-the-quirks-of-TFS-using-git-take-2 I'll check out the ironruby source code too on how you do it. --- Met vriendelijke groeten - Best regards - Salutations Ivan Porto Carrero Blog: http://flanders.co.nz Twitter: http://twitter.com/casualjim Author of IronRuby in Action (http://manning.com/carrero)
on 2010-01-26 09:38
That blogpost is basically all Jim and I would want to do – wrap the GIT and TFS command-lines. A step above that would be to use grit (GIT implementation in Ruby … or even Git#) as well as the TFS APIs. But as Jim said, we haven’t found the time to make this really nice, so I welcome anyone else to do so. As a starter, here’s my notes on using TFS and GIT together; it’d be great to just get some easy-to-use scripts to wrap this up: http://gist.github.com/286677 ~Jimmy From: ironruby-core-bounces@rubyforge.org [mailto:ironruby-core-bounces@rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Ivan Porto Carrero Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 3:06 PM To: ironruby-core@rubyforge.org Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] dealing with TFS svnbridge doesn't work with rubymine or git-svn but it does with tortoise etc. The source control needs to work from within the environment, at least that's what the boss told me. this looks promising too with a few rake tasks perhaps: http://jeroen.haegebaert.com/post/2008/08/23/Dealing-with-the-quirks-of-TFS-using-git-take-2 I'll check out the ironruby source code too on how you do it. --- Met vriendelijke groeten - Best regards - Salutations Ivan Porto Carrero Blog: http://flanders.co.nz Twitter: http://twitter.com/casualjim Author of IronRuby in Action (http://manning.com/carrero) On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Orion Edwards <orion.edwards@gmail.com<mailto:orion.edwards@gmail.com>> wrote: We've got a couple of people using the TFS->SVN bridge, which I think is made by the codeplex guys. It's SLOW, but it works well for them, as they're on smaller projects. On 24/01/2010, at 4:28 AM, Ivan Porto Carrero wrote: Hi How do you guys deal with TFS? My guys have settled on Rubymine as their IDE, but their SCM is TFS of course as it's a .NET shop. As you're well aware off TFS has the unfortunate habit of marking files as read-only and AFAIK there isn't an easy way to make it detect new files short of going through all the folders and manually adding the new files. When you're on a roll with a rails app for example this can mean there are quite a few files that need to be added. What is the workflow you settled on? use git for everything and once in a while make it sync with TFS? --- Met vriendelijke groeten - Best regards - Salutations Ivan Porto Carrero Blog: http://flanders.co.nz<http://flanders.co.nz/> Twitter: http://twitter.com/casualjim Author of IronRuby in Action (http://manning.com/carrero) _______________________________________________ Ironruby-core mailing list Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org<mailto:Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core _______________________________________________ Ironruby-core mailing list Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org<mailto:Ironruby-core@rubyforge.org> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core
on 2010-01-27 05:41
I've not gone through the full post, but based on the title this might help: http://richardsbraindump.blogspot.com/2010/01/how-to-get-git-and-tfs-working-together.html On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Jimmy Schementi <
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