After doing some playing around RoR ,now is time to make it real and start making money.. The target for now is to make simple website and get used to new tecnology (Github , capistrano and so on) Now I need to install the new DEV machine but .... Ubuntu (deb) or Centos (rpm) Netbeans or Eclipse Which combination is better ?
on 2009-03-16 14:23
on 2009-03-16 14:35
Better is in the eye of the beholder, but I'm using Ubuntu running NetBeans as we speak, and I have no (major) complaints. Though I will admit that I only use NetBeans as a glorified editor - basically just for its syntax highlighting and occasionally for refactoring features which are pretty nice. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Simone R. <firstname.lastname@example.org
on 2009-03-16 14:35
Simone R. wrote: > Ubuntu (deb) or Centos (rpm) Ubuntu has much better user interface tuning. Centos (correct me whether or not I'm wrong) still has lots of miserable Unix-style glitches, such as a <delete> key that prints garbage in various apps - like MacOSX. > Netbeans or Eclipse Get them both and just see which one you keep using! -- Phlip
on 2009-03-16 15:25
I have tried these IDEs on Windows: - RubyMine - Aptana Studio - NetBeans Also coded a while without any IDE but I need the debug feature. I recently switched to NetBeans on Ubuntu and it's better than anything before, especially because Ruby on Linux is much faster. And, both are free of charge! With 'Eclipse' you mean Aptana Studio? Because I couldn't get the RadRails plugin to work with Eclipse, at least not on Windows. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Simone R. <email@example.com
on 2009-03-16 15:54
that's a very personal decision. you gotta try and decide for yourself. personally i've been working on mac/textmate for a while and switched back to suse/kate which is a very good combination for me. my coworkers are using ubuntu/netbeans though.
on 2009-03-16 18:32
+1 vote for Ubuntu, and I use the straight Eclipse Ganymede with the Ruby language added in. But as mentioned before, it is very much a personal preference as to editor.
on 2009-03-16 23:14
Ar Chron wrote: > But as mentioned before, it is very much a personal preference as to > editor. I'm starting form nothing (I was working on Dreamweaver and Notepad++ before) , I did some coding on Netbeans but I'm not glued to it , I just need some with the best integration with RoR , github and capistrano. But I have no idea which one is better
on 2009-03-17 00:09
Simone R. wrote: [...] > > Now I need to install the new DEV machine but .... > > Ubuntu (deb) or Centos (rpm) I would definitely go with Ubuntu. You might also check if your laptop will do a decent job with Mac OS X -- many will. > Netbeans or Eclipse Neither (granted, I've never used NetBeans). Try jEdit. I've got some setup info on my blog; since I don't want to linkspam this forum, check out my other posts about jEdit. Best, -- Marnen Laibow-Koser firstname.lastname@example.org http://www.marnen.org
on 2009-03-17 01:12
Simone R. wrote: > Now I need to install the new DEV machine but .... > > Ubuntu (deb) or Centos (rpm) Ubuntu is more functional and integrated for the desktop out of the box. CentOS is Red Hat Enterprise Linux in disguise, which is awesome for servers but for which desktops have not been a focus point for a while. Recently, RHEL has announced a "return to the desktop" but this will likely not materialize in the CentOS/RHEL 5 series. > Netbeans or Eclipse NetBeans can be flunky with regards to output windows (how to reopen a Mongrel window after its been accidentally closed?), has a really slow CSS editor, and has poor syntax parsing. But when I recently tried Aptana Studio it wouldn't even launch on a fresh install, and the latest release of RadRails isn't compatible with Eclipse 3.4. That pretty much sways the decision in favor of NetBeans. -- Roderick van Domburg http://www.nedforce.nl
on 2009-03-17 03:11
Ubuntu + Vim. Give it a shot, and if you don't like it, then try something else. That's the beauty of the choices you have listed ... they are all free and you can try them out and find out what works best for you. On Mar 16, 7:23 am, "Simone R." <email@example.com>
on 2009-03-17 03:45
Hi there! I would recommend you Fedora 10 for desktop and server configurations. If you have a Mac available, then use TextMate for developing. If not, do it under vim (with vim-rails plugin, by Tim Pope) or emacs (following the PeepCode screencast about it). On the IDE side, I prefer Netbeans. But remember, you have two powered open-source editor to the job. So, use them. Hope you can find your way... Cheers!
on 2009-03-17 04:02
José Tiburcio Ribeiro N. wrote: > I would recommend you Fedora 10 for desktop and server configurations. What's the difference between Fedora and CentOS?
on 2009-03-17 05:22
Well, RHEL is built upon Fedora, and CentOS is built upon RHEL public SRPMS. I think that's the main difference or equivalence =) I'm just used to Fedora and like it a lot for deploying Rails applications.
on 2009-03-17 09:40
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Simone R. < firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > I'm starting form nothing (I was working on Dreamweaver and Notepad++ > before) , I did some coding on Netbeans but I'm not glued to it , I just > need some with the best integration with RoR , github and capistrano. > Better is whatever gets the job done for you. The good news is that you're talking about free SW, so you can try each variant for a week or so with minimal risk of lock-in, and compare. (Ultimately though, you should understand that the option that you take the time to get used to will probably be the best one.) As for tool integration, I would encourage you try things like git, Capistrano, Rails generators and console, etc. out from the command line as you get started. The act of reading man pages and typing in the specific options you want will give you a better understanding of the tools. Then if you still feel that using a full IDE will give you some productivity boost, go ahead and do it. BTW, I haven't checked in a bit, but I'm fairly sure neither option you mentioned is going to give you git integration... Not sure my info is up to date though, so someone correct me if you've heard otherwise.
on 2009-03-17 13:59
JosÃ© Netto wrote: > RHEL is built upon Fedora, and CentOS is built upon RHEL public SRPMS. To be more precise, Federa is something of a playground for RHEL. Some items may be included in RHEL, other items may not be depending on how the experiment turned out. -- Roderick van Domburg http://www.nedforce.nl
on 2009-03-18 23:29
+1 for Ubuntu. A friend of mine said he had a lot of trouble getting git installed on CentOS 5...I think he even gave up on it. +1 for RubyMine. I migrated from Aptana Studio to RubyMine and I think I'm sold. Aptana is just too bloated for my liking. RubyMine has great code validations and helpers. I've also briefly used Netbeans...I'd go back to it before Aptana. Also, you can try RubyMine for 90 days after installation...fyi. http://www.jetbrains.com/ruby/index.html