Forum: Rails Spinoffs (closed, excessive spam) About prototype.js and xml dom

Posted by fdb (Guest)
on 2008-06-20 10:29
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Hello,

I'm looking for a cross-browsers library based on prototype.js that
wraps XML dom.
I tried to extend XML dom elements by using Object.extend and
Element.extend without success.
It works fine with firefox (Object.extend) but don't work with IE
(msxml).
I suppose that IE objects are not 'prototype based' objects.
Is there a way to go around this issue like prototype did it with HTML
dom elements.
I'm surprised notice that prototype do not provide such
functionnalities because we are often led to deal with xml data with
Ajax requests. I suspect  that it's not easy or even not possible....

Thanks for your help
Posted by Diodeus (Guest)
on 2008-06-20 15:11
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I was hoping for the same thing. I got tired of dancing up and down
XML trees. It's a pain.

I gave up and converted my data structures to JSON. It's much easier
to deal with.

My hair has even grown back since.
Posted by Frederick Polgardy (Guest)
on 2008-06-20 16:55
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That is correct; you cannot extend DOM prototypes in IE (what
Object.extend() does).

There is a project called Sarissa you might want to look at:

http://dev.abiss.gr/sarissa/

> Sarissa is an ECMAScript library acting as a cross-browser wrapper for
> native XML APIs. It offers various XML related goodies like Document
> instantiation, XML loading from URLs or strings, XSLT transformations, XPath
> queries etc and comes especially handy for people doing what is lately known
> as "AJAX" development.
>
> Supported browsers are Mozilla - Firefox and family, Internet Explorer with
> MSXML3.0 and up, Konqueror (KDE 3.3+ for sure), Safari and Opera. Konq and
> Safari offer no XSLT/XPath scripting support AFAIK.
>
Somebody brought it into a project I was involved with last year.  It 
seemed
powerful but heavyweight.  But if a full range of XML manipulation is 
what
you need it might be the ticket.

FYI, it has nothing to do with Prototype though.  And hair retention is 
not
guaranteed. ;-)

-Fred

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:26 AM, fdb <frederic.dalbo@sage.fr> wrote:

> Is there a way to go around this issue like prototype did it with HTML
> dom elements.
> I'm surprised notice that prototype do not provide such
> functionnalities because we are often led to deal with xml data with
> Ajax requests. I suspect  that it's not easy or even not possible....
>
> Thanks for your help


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Posted by Matt Foster (Guest)
on 2008-06-20 22:03
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This is something I've wanted as well, the core team has always just
cried in the name of JSON.  But it would be very convenient to have a
nice proto extension to handle XML data.
A lot of times the client side developer doesn't have a choice in the
data services data format, which XML is still a very popular choice,
there is still a very firm need for this.  I think this is something
I'll look into, i had come up with a very hacky workaround that just
stuffed the responseText into a dom object, worked fine for FF as it
handles "custom" html tags, but there needs to be better support.

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Posted by kangax (Guest)
on 2008-06-20 22:47
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While prototype.js happens to be more JSON oriented, no one is really
stopping community from developing an add-on extension : ) I think
it's clear that solid XML-manipulation is never going to the core
(unless prototype ever decides to become modular - and even then it's
not clear who will be maintaining it) I'm not sure why there are no
such add-ons around, but you are always welcome to submit one to
scripteka.

- kangax
Posted by Frederick Polgardy (Guest)
on 2008-06-21 22:56
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All the Ajax stuff in Netflix.com is XML-based, AFAIK.

I think this would be a nice extension also.  If you've already done 
some
thinking about how this might look in terms of an API and feature set, 
I'd
be happy to take a look and help out.

-Fred

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Matt Foster <mattfoster01@gmail.com> 
wrote:

>
> This is something I've wanted as well, the core team has always just
> cried in the name of JSON.  But it would be very convenient to have a
> nice proto extension to handle XML data.
> A lot of times the client side developer doesn't have a choice in the
> data services data format, which XML is still a very popular choice,
> there is still a very firm need for this.  I think this is something
> I'll look into, i had come up with a very hacky workaround that just
> stuffed the responseText into a dom object, worked fine for FF as it
> handles "custom" html tags, but there needs to be better support.


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