Forum: Ruby eclipse & subversion

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David S. (Guest)
on 2007-07-04 18:52
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Hi

I  am using eclipse as an IDE and am setting up a subversion server.

In trying to add subeclipse I get the message:

"Subclipse Mylar Integration (1.0.1) requires
plug-in "org.eclipse.mylar.tasks.core (0.9.2)", or later version."

Then I have difficulty finding how to install Mylar.

Then I find the Mylar project is now something different (Mylyn I
believe) and
Mylar has to be deinstalled.

Is anyone in a position to give me instructions on how to enable eclipse
to be
able to checkout/checkin from a subversion repository and be able to use
it
via Aptana?

Thanks

David S.
Bjoern Jensen (Guest)
on 2007-07-04 19:36
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Hi,
just one question: could you make a detailed selection of what should
be installed of Subclipse? I've had the same problem installing
subversive and I just disable a subselect and everything's fine. Mylar
is probably never needed to communicate with a svn-repository...

> In trying to add subeclipse I get the message: "Subclipse Mylar Integration (1.0.1) 
requires plug-in "org.eclipse.mylar.tasks.core (0.9.2)", or later version."
>
> Then I have difficulty finding how to install Mylar.
>
> Then I find the Mylar project is now something different (Mylyn I believe) and
> Mylar has to be deinstalled.

I think the package structure of Mylar is renamed to Mylyn because of
changing the projectname. So it doesn't fit.

Hope I could help.

Have fun,
Bjoern


--
Viele Grueße / Best regards

Bjoern Jensen
web: http://www.jughh.org
Gregory B. (Guest)
on 2007-07-04 19:43
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On 7/4/07, David S. <removed_email_address@domain.invalid> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I  am using eclipse as an IDE and am setting up a subversion server.
>
> In trying to add subeclipse I get the message:

Hi.  I don't mind technical non-ruby questions, but it might be polite
to use [OT] in your subject to indicate the thread is not about ruby.
David S. (Guest)
on 2007-07-05 15:06
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On Wednesday 04 July 2007 08:42:06 Gregory B. wrote:
> On 7/4/07, David S. <removed_email_address@domain.invalid> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I  am using eclipse as an IDE and am setting up a subversion server.
> >
> > In trying to add subeclipse I get the message:
>
> Hi.  I don't mind technical non-ruby questions, but it might be polite
> to use [OT] in your subject to indicate the thread is not about ruby.

This is not OT!!

It is about programming Ruby using a version of eclipse which has been
developed as an IDE for Ruby P.ming.

I am sorry you are confused.

If you had read my Original Post (see below) you will see reference to
Aptana
which provides one the extensions that contribute to the IDE especially
for
Ruby and Ruby on Rails prpogramming. I assumed those likely to reply to
my
post would be able to both read and understand my  OP.

There must be some Ruby programmers who use eclipse as their IDE. If you
do
not then I humbly suggest you take a careful look at it. You may find it
extremely helpful to code in that environment.

David S.

******************************
Hi

I  am using eclipse as an IDE and am setting up a subversion server.

In trying to add subeclipse I get the message:

"Subclipse Mylar Integration (1.0.1) requires
plug-in "org.eclipse.mylar.tasks.core (0.9.2)", or later version."

Then I have difficulty finding how to install Mylar.

Then I find the Mylar project is now something different (Mylyn I
believe) and
Mylar has to be deinstalled.

Is anyone in a position to give me instructions on how to enable eclipse
to be
able to checkout/checkin from a subversion repository and be able to use
it
via Aptana?
**********************************
Gregory B. (Guest)
on 2007-07-05 17:35
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On 7/5/07, David S. <removed_email_address@domain.invalid> wrote:
>
> This is not OT!!
>
> It is about programming Ruby using a version of eclipse which has been
> developed as an IDE for Ruby P.ming.
>
> I am sorry you are confused.

Okay, then where is the Ruby?
Logan C. (Guest)
on 2007-07-05 18:22
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On 7/5/07, David S. <removed_email_address@domain.invalid> wrote:
> > to use [OT] in your subject to indicate the thread is not about ruby.
> which provides one the extensions that contribute to the IDE especially
>
>

It is in my opinion off topic. Ruby is only very tangentially related to
your question, you're are not even asking about ruby plugins for
Eclipse,
except in the sense you happen to be using them. I also do not mind the
occasional diversion, but I agree with Gregory B., it would be
courteous
(and easy!) for you to put an [OT] tag on your subject line (or even a
[Slighty OT]).
David S. (Guest)
on 2007-07-05 19:09
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On Thursday 05 July 2007 07:20:50 Logan C. wrote:
> > > to use [OT] in your subject to indicate the thread is not about ruby.
> > which provides one the extensions that contribute to the IDE especially
>
> It is in my opinion off topic. Ruby is only very tangentially related to
> your question, you're are not even asking about ruby plugins for Eclipse,
> except in the sense you happen to be using them. I also do not mind the
> occasional diversion, but I agree with Gregory B., it would be courteous
> (and easy!) for you to put an [OT] tag on your subject line (or even a
> [Slighty OT]).

Sorry I do not agree - and I feel you guys are wasting  your own energy
in
what others might consider to be constipated proscriptive dialogues.
Choosing
to make badly judges nit-picking grouches instead offering positive
contributions is IMHO a grossly discourteous pastime.

You are also way off target as the topic is not at all tangental. Aptana
is a
dedicated Ruby and Ruby on Rails development tool-- and being able to
use
Aptana with a subversion server is solely of interest to Ruby and Ruby
on
Rails developers.

If you are not now willing to acknowledge that then I cannot remedy an
ignorance that flies in the face of the facts.

I have now solved  the problem - if other Ruby programmers want to know
how to
use Aptana for Ruby programming so they can check in and out of a
subversion
server within the Aptana Ruby solution they can email me directly.

David S.
Gregory B. (Guest)
on 2007-07-05 19:31
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On 7/5/07, David S. <removed_email_address@domain.invalid> wrote:

> I have now solved  the problem - if other Ruby programmers want to know how to
> use Aptana for Ruby programming so they can check in and out of a subversion
> server within the Aptana Ruby solution they can email me directly.

Or you could also use the very active Aptana forums, where you're most
likely to get the best results:
http://www.aptana.com/forums/
Robert D. (Guest)
on 2007-07-05 19:34
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On 7/5/07, Logan C. <removed_email_address@domain.invalid> wrote:
> > > Hi.  I don't mind technical non-ruby questions, but it might be polite
> > Aptana
> > David S.
> >
> >
>
> It is in my opinion off topic. Ruby is only very tangentially related to
> your question, you're are not even asking about ruby plugins for Eclipse,
> except in the sense you happen to be using them. I also do not mind the
> occasional diversion, but I agree with Gregory B., it would be courteous
> (and easy!) for you to put an [OT] tag on your subject line (or even a
> [Slighty OT]).
>
I strongly disagree with Gregory's and Logan's POV.
We had so much more OT stuff, I feel that this is not OT at all, BTW
it does not interest me a tiny little bit, but there is a difference
between OT and Does not interest me.

Furthermore I do not remember any post of bad form or content by
David, if you have an issue with David, maybe you can handle it OL?



Cheers
Robert
Gregory B. (Guest)
on 2007-07-05 19:46
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On 7/5/07, Robert D. <removed_email_address@domain.invalid> wrote:

> between OT and Does not interest me.
>
> Furthermore I do not remember any post of bad form or content by
> David, if you have an issue with David, maybe you can handle it OL?

Actually, I have no issue at all with David.  I thought that my
suggestion was a polite one, but I can see how it could be
misinterpreted.  I'm just thinking that with all the possible editors
with Ruby modes, maybe we'd end up with way more traffic than we can
handle if we started fielding a bunch of non-ruby questions.

I mean, the question was about configuring SVN, not about something
like "matching do/end braces or Ruby syntax coloring".  That to me
feels like the kind of question that would be much better asked on a
project's own forums or mailing lists.  It just so happens that Aptana
has a very active community[0], so all the better.

As I mentioned, I have no problem with posts like that here because
they definitely might be interesting to some of our readers.  But
they're not on the topic of Ruby.  They're on the topic of how to
configure a tool that can be used in Ruby development and might be
used by a minority of our readers here.  That to me is off topic, or
at least tangental.  Indicating it in the subject line is not a rule,
just a matter of politeness.  (And an easy thing to do!)

I disappeared for a while because I was having trouble keeping up with
RubyTalk, but now I'm trying very hard to keep up again.  Small
courtesies go a long way in helping make the list more easily
readable.

-greg

[0] http://www.aptana.com/forums/
Robert D. (Guest)
on 2007-07-05 19:56
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On 7/5/07, Gregory B. <removed_email_address@domain.invalid> wrote:
> > We had so much more OT stuff, I feel that this is not OT at all, BTW
> handle if we started fielding a bunch of non-ruby questions.
Good point, but was not clear at all to me.
>
> I mean, the question was about configuring SVN, not about something
> like "matching do/end braces or Ruby syntax coloring".  That to me
> feels like the kind of question that would be much better asked on a
> project's own forums or mailing lists.  It just so happens that Aptana
> has a very active community[0], so all the better.
Yeah you said that but later.
> RubyTalk, but now I'm trying very hard to keep up again.  Small
> courtesies go a long way in helping make the list more easily
> readable.
I agree, and I feel very good about your reply, I just thought that we
- and you included - throw that [OT] thing at anybody, so I felt err a
little sorry for David.

I respect your POV but I still feel that the traffic on this list is
quite ok for that kind of permissiveness, but I will watch out myself
to stay on topic if this opinion is shared.

Most important thing is to openly talk about it, what we did :)
And sorry for the jumped conclusion about the issue, that was a bad
interpretation on my part :(.

Cheers
Robert
David S. (Guest)
on 2007-07-05 20:12
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On Thursday 05 July 2007 08:30:09 Gregory B. wrote:
>>  On 7/5/07, David S. <removed_email_address@domain.invalid> wrote:
>> Sorry I do not agree - and I feel you guys are wasting  your own energy in
>> what others might consider to be constipated proscriptive dialogues.
>> Choosing
>> to make badly judges nit-picking grouches instead offering positive
>> contributions is IMHO a grossly discourteous pastime.

>> You are also way off target as the topic is not at all tangental. Aptana is
>> a dedicated Ruby and Ruby on Rails development tool-- and being able to
>>  use  Aptana with a subversion server is solely of interest to Ruby and
>>  Ruby on  Rails developers.

>> If you are not now willing to acknowledge that then I cannot remedy an
>> ignorance that flies in the face of the facts.
>> I have now solved  the problem - if other Ruby programmers want to know
> > how to use Aptana for Ruby programming so they can check in and out of a
> > subversion server within the Aptana Ruby solution they can email me
> > directly.
>
> Or you could also use the very active Aptana forums, where you're most
> likely to get the best results:
> http://www.aptana.com/forums/

Thank you -- it is good to see a positive contribution from you

David S.
Gregory B. (Guest)
on 2007-07-05 20:19
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On 7/5/07, David S. <removed_email_address@domain.invalid> wrote:

> > Or you could also use the very active Aptana forums, where you're most
> > likely to get the best results:
> > http://www.aptana.com/forums/
>
> Thank you -- it is good to see a positive contribution from you

Yeah, I've had a few[0], actually.  Logan[1], too.

[0] http://tinyurl.com/2od5ak
[1] http://tinyurl.com/2kdsbw
David S. (Guest)
on 2007-07-05 20:21
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On Thursday 05 July 2007 08:44:13 Gregory B. wrote:
> > it does not interest me a tiny little bit, but there is a difference
>
> used by a minority of our readers here.  That to me is off topic, or
> at least tangental.  Indicating it in the subject line is not a rule,
> just a matter of politeness.  (And an easy thing to do!)
>
> I disappeared for a while because I was having trouble keeping up with
> RubyTalk, but now I'm trying very hard to keep up again.  Small
> courtesies go a long way in helping make the list more easily
> readable.
>
I agree

Small courtesies do help but big courtesies go a long way. A small
courtesy is
NOT to be pedantic. A big courtesy is to be constructive as possible at
all
times rather than picking nits. Franky I find contributions that tell
people
how they should or should not behave at best irritating as well as
discourteous and at worst inflamatory and best avoided.

I do not know how you know what proportion of readers use any
particu;lar tool
nor was I aware a discussion was likely to of OT if it happens, in your
opinion (however that may be arrived at)  to be of interest to a
minority
however large or small.

So lets drasw a close to this and hopefully future dialogues will be
constructive.

david Southwell
Gregory B. (Guest)
on 2007-07-05 20:29
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On 7/5/07, David S. <removed_email_address@domain.invalid> wrote:

> So lets drasw a close to this and hopefully future dialogues will be
> constructive.

Yeah, you're right.  I really wasn't trying to be inflammatory, and
possibly mailing you off list would have been the best approach.   To
get it off on the constructive track, and for the archives, can you
post what you did to get things working?
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